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Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:58 pm
by Rolling Stone
I am thinking about purchasing Tacx Bushido for Tablets, which only works with bluetooth and I am not sure if I will be able to control it. Could someone please reply if it works with Garmin Edge 1030? Does it work with any Mac or tablet (Android or iOS) software without subscription? I.e., I do not need all this fancy staff like real time video and online competition, but I need to be able to create and run my own programs. I do not see why I have to pay a subscription fee for this.

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:03 pm
by Alex Masalovich
The T2790 Bushido for Tablet was the first Bushido with the capability of Bluetooth connectivity. The T2790 Bushido for Tablet only broadcasts the Tacx Bluetooth protocol, meaning that it can only connect to the Tacx Training app or the Tacx Cycling app. It is not a Smart trainer.

https://support.tacx.com/hc/en-us/artic ... and-models

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:47 pm
by mcorn
Although the Bushido might seem attractive, its lack of an external power supply can make it a pain to calibrate and download firmware updates to. I had a prior model and am not crazy about it.

Having a Smart trainer that has both ANT+ and Bluetooth capability is a big advantage in terms of maximum compatibility and flexibility for software connections.

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:58 am
by Rolling Stone
mcorn wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:47 pm
Although the Bushido might seem attractive, its lack of an external power supply can make it a pain to calibrate and download firmware updates to. I had a prior model and am not crazy about it.

Having a Smart trainer that has both ANT+ and Bluetooth capability is a big advantage in terms of maximum compatibility and flexibility for software connections.
I have the old Bushido which only supports ANT+ and has an old protocol not supported by modern devices such as Garmin Edge. I think it's been many years since the last update was released, so updates are not a problem at all. I like it, but I would like to replace the head unit with some other device, where I could store and analyze data. From this table it looks like Bushido for Tablets should be compatible with Tacx Desktop application. And here it says that basic features are free. But I would like to make sure before making a buying decision.

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:21 am
by mcorn
Rolling Stone wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:58 am
I think it's been many years since the last update was released, so updates are not a problem at all.
As long as you are comfortable. Firmware updates do come along from time to time. My experience is that all models of the Bushido can present firmware update issues. You might want to take a look at the following:

viewtopic.php?f=60&t=34946

search.php?keywords=bushido+for+tablet+firmware+update

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:21 pm
by Rolling Stone
mcorn wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:21 am
Rolling Stone wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:58 am
I think it's been many years since the last update was released, so updates are not a problem at all.
As long as you are comfortable. Firmware updates do come along from time to time. My experience is that all models of the Bushido can present firmware update issues. You might want to take a look at the following:

viewtopic.php?f=60&t=34946

search.php?keywords=bushido+for+tablet+firmware+update
Thanks. I guess I need to try it myself and see how it will work out for me.

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:59 pm
by Alex Masalovich
Rolling Stone wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:58 am
From this table it looks like Bushido for Tablets should be compatible with Tacx Desktop application.
This is a table for Bushido Smart. Be careful.

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:49 pm
by mcorn
Alex Masalovich wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:59 pm
Rolling Stone wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:58 am
From this table it looks like Bushido for Tablets should be compatible with Tacx Desktop application.
This is a table for Bushido Smart. Be careful.
I was also not 100% sure from Tacx documentation that the Bushido for Tablet worked with TDA even though it appeared that it should. It would be helpful if there was a Bushido for Tablet user would could actually confirm that it worked without any issues.

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:45 pm
by Rolling Stone
So I got me an old (new old stock) Bushido for Tablets and I see a weird thing - only Tacx Cycling App on my MacBook can identify this as "Tacx ANT Brake", which is strange. However neither Tacx Cycling App nor Tacx Utility on my iPhone and iPad can find this device. Is it broken?

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:40 pm
by mcorn
Rolling Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:45 pm
So I got me an old (new old stock) Bushido for Tablets and I see a weird thing - only Tacx Cycling App on my MacBook can identify this as "Tacx ANT Brake", which is strange. However neither Tacx Cycling App nor Tacx Utility on my iPhone and iPad can find this device. Is it broken?
What model number did you buy?

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 pm
by Rolling Stone
mcorn wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:40 pm
What model number did you buy?
No idea. I actually was able to connect iPhone Tacx Traning app, but not Tacx Utility with the device. The worst thing is that I realized that I cannot create my own training plan. It seems that I can only upload a gpx file, but not define my own training profile. Is this really so? I thought I could define gradient/duration just like I did with a previous Bushido.

Re: Tacx Bushido for Tablets

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:48 am
by Alex Masalovich
mcorn wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:40 pm
What model number did you buy?
Rolling Stone wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 pm
No idea.
See the label on the surface of the electro unit:

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Rolling Stone wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 pm
I actually was able to connect iPhone Tacx Traning app, but not Tacx Utility with the device. The worst thing is that I realized that I cannot create my own training plan. It seems that I can only upload a gpx file, but not define my own training profile. Is this really so? I thought I could define gradient/duration just like I did with a previous Bushido.
https://support.tacx.com/hc/en-us/artic ... 5-Workouts